EP. #27

#27- Talkin' Tanks

On this week’s episode of The Liquid Trucking Podcast, we’ll hit some breaking news off the top, and then, we’re talking tanks.


Adam Quinn Director of Specialty Sales
Jordan Kastein Regional Sales Director
Gabe Schmidt Operations Manager
Tony Brown Professional Driver


On this week’s episode of The Liquid Trucking Podcast, we’ll hit some breaking news off the top, and then, we’re talking tanks. Who better to bring in than an industry leader in tank and trailer innovation? We’ll welcome Wabash Director of Specialty Sales Adam Quinn, and Wabash Regional Sales Director Jordan Kastein, along with Liquid’s Operations Manager Gabe Schmidt, to discuss a full load of topics surrounding the tanks Liquid runs. We’ll also hear from Liquid driver Tony Brown, who brings us a couple new recipes he’s made while on the road.


What’s good out there,

Liquid Trucking?

Welcome in to the Liquid Trucking Podcast episode 27.

And I’m very excited to have you all here today.

Thank you so much for joining me,

your host Marcus.

As we embark on yet another podcast adventure with Liquid Trucking.

Today’s episode is very exciting because we have a couple of the gentlemen responsible for some of the great equipment that Liquid utilizes coming on the show today,

Adam Quinn,

Director of specialty Sales with Wabash and Jordan K Stein Manager of regional Sales with Wabash will join us here just around the corner with operations manager from Liquid Gabe Schmidt.

We’re gonna talk about what sets Wabash trailers apart from the rest of the industry.

Why Liquid utilizes them and some of the things that Liquid likes about the trailers,

plus we’ll get a peek behind the curtain of some new innovations that might be coming around the corner for these awesome Wabash trailers.

Uh Before we get into that,

I’ve got a little bit of homework and we’re gonna touch on some breaking news here in just a moment,

but don’t forget if you want to be on this podcast,

you have something that you want to hear on this podcast or maybe you’d just like to learn a little bit more about it.

Head on over to Liquid trucking.com and,


right at the top of the page there,

you’ll see my big dumb face pointing at the learn more button.

Click that it will take you to our podcast landing page.

You’ll be able to learn about the people that were on the show with us.

Uh You can check out all of our episodes there.

There’s also a contact and of course,

if you just want to shoot us an email,

you’re always more than welcome to podcast at Liquid trucking.com.

It’s that simple.


what’s next?


I already told you,

I teased it as we like to say,

in the industry,

let’s get to some breaking news,

breaking news coming to you courtesy of freight waves uh for this article and the following one,

freight waves says that tractor trailer thefts in Mexico totaled 153 in the month of April.

Uh that averages about five cargo truck thefts per day.

Uh which and this all comes from the National Association of Vehicle Tracking and Protection companies.

Uh tractor trailer thefts in April increased 7.7% according to the article from the same month,

last year,

uh The National Association of Vehicle Tracking and Protection Companies reported a total of 546 tractor trailer thefts from January through April,

which is a 5% year over year increase during the first four months of the year.

The state of Mexico ranked number one in cargo thefts with 100 and 38 cases,


followed by the States of Puebla,

Hidalgo and Jalisco.



the A N er PV,

which is that,


National Association of Vehicle Tracking and Protection companies says 33% of cargo truck thefts took place between 7 a.m. and noon.

28% between noon and 7 p.m. and 22 percent at night and 17% in the early morning.

So that’s a little bit uh shocking there that most of the thefts are taking place between 7 a.m. and 7 p.m. Not when you’re sleeping in your truck at night or something like that.

Uh The Mexican Association of Insurance Institution uh institutions,

excuse me,

which includes Amtrak’s cargo thefts said that Kenworth tractor trailers are the most stolen trucks across Mexico followed by Freightliner and international tractors.

More than 70%.

And this is big you guys,

more than 70% of cargo theft cases in Mexico also involve some type of violence.

Uh That’s,

that’s really scary.


And I don’t know how many of you drivers,

uh if any of you from liquid are actually making it down across the border into Mexico,

but if you are stay safe out there because uh theft is increasing of tractor trailers and it doesn’t look like they’re just taking the vans,



they’re taking,


they’re taking everything that they can,

they’ll take the whole truck and they will be violent to do so.



if you are down there,

if you know anybody that is,

make sure you’re staying vigilant and watching your back,


this next article coming out of freight waves is entitled pair indicted in slaying of Louisiana staged accident suspect who was cooperating with the scheme.

This is crazy.

We’ve all heard about operation sideswipe down in Louisiana where there were 50 people that were colluding to basically get into accidents with semi truck drivers and then bleed those companies,

uh insurance dry in the settlements.


what happened here is this gentleman whose name is Cornelius Garrison was an alleged conspiracy conspirator in the Louisiana staged accident scam.

He was then gunned down in his New Orleans home on September 22nd,

2024 days after he was indicted in the scheme to stage collisions with trucks with the goal of prying insurance payments out of the trucking companies.

Ryan Harris who’s 35 and Giovanna Gardner who’s 39 were indicted by the US attorney for the eastern district of Louisiana.

The indictments were announced on Monday and they are indicted with Da da da da murder.


Because it’s looking like what happened here is that,


we had a scheme,

we had a bunch of people involved in it.

Uh Garrison was Cornelius Garrison was a,


a coconspirator with Ryan Harris and Giovanna Gardner and they,

according to federal prosecutors murdered Cornelius in his home,


in some sort of hope that he wouldn’t be able to testify against them.


this thing just keeps getting deeper and deeper.

Like I said,

we’ve got 50 co-conspirators here who have been charged in operation sideswipe.


and Harrison Gardner do not appear to have been indicted earlier in the case for the actual participation in the staged accidents and the mail and wire fraud charges along with the murder related charges appear to be a catch up by prosecutors.

So hopefully,

the ringleaders of this whole thing are getting their come up and if you will and,


you know,

hopefully these people rot in prison forever for murdering somebody.



that’s terrible.


you know,

even more terrible than bleeding.

All these insurance companies and trucking companies dry by staging accidents with,

with trucks.

It’s just,

it’s unthinkable really when you think about the safety aspect of this job,

as much as we do on this podcast that there could be a bunch of jack wagons out there that are actually trying to cause accidents,

putting people’s,


life and limbs in jeopardy in doing so.

It’s just,

it’s terrible.

You hate to hear it.



it looks like federal prosecutors are well on their way to putting the people that were involved in that case behind bars.


this next story comes from CD L life.com.

It says agents seized almost half a million dollars in cocaine hidden amongst the load of cotton candy in Texas.

Earlier this month,

the contraband was found on May 9th inside of a tractor trailer that was crossing the World Trade Bridge near Laredo,


According to the Laredo morning times,


customs and border protection agents used a canine and X ray equipment to uncover the 15 packages made up of £37 of cocaine hidden inside the load of cotton candy.

Uh It’s,

there’s a quote here actually from Albert Flores of the Laredo port of entry.

He says our front line officers continue to maintain resolute vigilance and that dedication to the mission coupled with an effective use of technology resulted in the interception of a significant amount of cocaine.

The found cocaine had an estimated value of $496,879 and no further information has been released.

But we’ll keep you updated on that story if there’s anything else worth talking about.

And finally coming in from CD L life.

I saved this one for last because it’s my favorite story.

House Bill 533 by Representative Clay Handy will go into effect on July 1st in Idaho after being signed into law by Governor Brad Little.


what is House Bill 533?

You ask,


let me tell you a new law amends existing regulations related to vehicle mufflers and noise prevention to allow truckers to idle while parked under certain circumstances.

Under the new law,

truckers may allow their vehicle to idle quote for the purpose of using the vehicle’s heating or air conditioning system.

As long as the driver is parked for the purposes of resting or sleeping.

Truckers are also permitted to use auxiliary power units to provide heating or air conditioning to the vehicle.

Under the new law.

The law also permits truckers to idle while parked if they are hauling refrigerated perishable loads,

pharmaceuticals or both uh handy has served twice as the president of the Idaho Trucking admit Association and comes from a trucking family and we are happy.

Uh those of us who live adjacent to the state of Idaho at least are happy that Mr Handy is uh out there representing for the trucking industry.

Uh And you know,

this is one of those things I’ve heard some drivers complain about is these idle restrictions.


Idaho is uh kind of turning this whole thing on its head for you guys.

And I hope that uh for those of you that end up out there in Idaho,

you can take advantage of this.

I’m not really sure how it’s going to affect uh drivers that are that tanker Yankers if you will.

Um I know that we’ve got great units on these trucks and they’re very well outfitted to keep you guys comfortable.

Um But if nothing else,

we tip a cap to our brethren in the drive in and reefer trucks out there who can now idle a little bit more comfortably in the state of Idaho.

That wraps up the breaking news today again.

Big thanks to CD L Life and freight waves for those articles.

Highly recommend both of those websites.

If you’re looking to catch up on your trucking industry news,

we’re gonna go ahead and dive into talking about Wabash trailers right now on the Liquid Trucking podcast.

Welcome to the Gold Standard of podcast for the gold standard of drivers.

This is the Liquid Trucking podcast with your host,

Marcus Bridges.

Joining me next here on the Liquid Trucking Podcast.

Uh It’s a segment I’m very excited for because we’ve got a full house.

We’ve got two people joining us here from Wabash trailer.

I’ve got Adam Quinn,

the director of specialty sales on the line.


thank you so much for being here.


Thanks for having me.

I’ve also got Jordan caste manager of regional sales at Wabash Jordan.

Thank you so much for being here.

Happy to be here.

Thanks for having us.


And uh I’ve also got seasoned pro of the podcast as we just established off the air uh operations manager for Liquid Trucking,

Gabe Schmidt joining us,


We appreciate the time as always.

Thanks again.

So we’re here to talk trailers today,



Uh Wabash is a name if you’re driving down the highway and you see the back of a semi truck trailer,

uh pretty high likelihood that it’s gonna say Wabash on the back of it.


you know,

I paid attention this weekend when I was driving around,

I saw so many of your trailers and I didn’t even leave town.

So um I,

I just love that.

We’ve got two guys here that can really talk to us about what’s going on behind the scenes at Wabash.

And uh I wanna start with you,

Adam real quick.

Can you talk to me about the relationship that Wabash has with Liquid Trucking?

Just kind of from the outset?




uh Liquid Trucking and Wabash have been working together as far back as 2009,

Roger Schmidt and Ron Bru,

who was,

you know,

our predecessor,

mine and Jordan,

formerly with Wabash had worked together from 2009 to 2019 and I actually came into the mix at that time.

So my first visit was with Roger in June of 2019 and the following visit was with G Josh and B and it was really cool to see that transition and especially to see how far the business has come since that time.

You know,


we truly appreciate the partnership we have with OFC and we enjoy supporting their girl.

Uh We have a very transparent relationship.

I feel like we bounce things off each other very well uh In,

in in that transparency,

we can provide responses and solutions to ofc uh issues at a,

at a faster speed helping increase their customer satisfaction.

Uh And overall,

you know,

the the team at OFC,


they’re just generally good people,

uh they care about their employees and,

and we appreciate that opportunity to support them.


well said there and,

and just because of my role here with Liquid as just the podcast host,

I get a lot of that from Liquid employees.

I hear stories about uh the way that Liquid is has picked them up when they’re down,

stories about the entire community coming together and uh and repairing the not only the shop but their homes during an epic 500 year flood.

This is a phenomenal company and it really does care about their employees and,

and Jordan,

I want to go to you here because you’re actually the only one I’m seeing on camera right now and you smiled back when Adam said that you have a very transparent relationship with Liquid.

Can you talk to me a little bit about what was bouncing around in your head when he said that?

Because I could tell that it resonated with you.



you know,

I just think we have a very open and honest relationship,


Um You know,


and that’s,

uh and,

and that,

and that’s huge from a customer,

you know,

when you can speak freely and uh just have open and honest dialogue with each other.

You know,


it makes for a fun conversation and,


you know,


it’s nobody’s ever afraid to hurt anyone’s feelings.

Um You know,


we say what needs to be said,




we’re able to work together and,


and get the job done.




it’s a fun group of guys,

you know,

we’ve had some good times,


you know,


with some golf competition last year,

we all got together and,

and did some golfing in the summer together.



we’ve had a lot of good times,

you know,

both on and off,

off the field,

so to speak.

So that’s great.


if you guys ever need 1/4 call me up.

It’s a little bit of a long drive for me out to Nebraska,

but I’ll make it for golf.

I’ll go anywhere for that.

Uh We’re,

we’re plan,

we’re planning another one this summer,


preliminary talks,


with Josh last week.



hopefully in the next couple of months,


we’ll make that happen.

So I love it.

I love it.

That’s great.


Can you talk to me a little bit about what sets,


liquid apart from some of your other customers?

And obviously I know you guys love all your customers,


They’re all great,


additions to uh,

the Wabash family,

but we’re here talking about liquid today.

So talk to me about some of the unique aspects that you’ve noticed in working with liquid trucking.


And what I think as I said,

you know,

they’re very easy to work with.


and two they have a,

a very good handle on their business.


and that’s the products that they’re hauling and the people that they’re dealing with and,

you know,

in the chemical industry and the chemical industry and transporting chemicals,


it’s very important to,


to know what you’re hauling and the products you’re dealing with and the customer bases you’re dealing with.

And I think they just have a really great handle on,

on all of that as a whole,



obviously we’ve been running uh,

Wabash Tanks for a long time here.

We’ve already established that,

uh from,

from your perspective as operations manager there at Liquid.

Why is my question why Wabash tell me about it?


I think it goes back to what Adam and Jordan were talking about the relationship.


you know,

they’re very easy to talk to and,

you know,

nobody’s ever trying to sell you anything.

These guys aren’t trying to sell us anything.

I mean,

they’re never putting on that,


that big sales pitch,

they’re never putting on the big sales pitch.

We can just freely talk about what the problems are and what we need and,

you know,

there’s other companies that make decent trailers,

but it just comes back to the relationship and the customer service.

I think that’s about,

you know,

at least half of the deal.

Um To me,


So they not only have a good product but it’s the relationship that goes along with it.

You know,

I was looking over the website over at uh uh the Wabash’s website,

excuse me.

And I clicked on the culture tab because it’s always something that I’m interested to learn more about when we have a vendor.

Come on here because I know culture is very important at Liquid.

We’ve already established that uh it’s a great company to work for everybody.

Uh It forms a real sense of community around Liquid and I’m just gonna read an excerpt from that uh that spot on your website there,


it says people purpose and performance drive our business.

We aren’t ordinary,

we aren’t conventional,

we aren’t like everyone else.

There’s something special happening here at Wabash.

It’s our focus on people purpose and performance that drives us to do better so we can continue changing how the world reaches you.

Um Adam,

if you could talk to me a little bit about how that lines up just so perfectly with liquid.

I mean,


you guys put a lot of thought behind the way that you run your company and the culture and everything and Liquid does too.

Does that make it just a match made in heaven for you all over there at Wabash?



I mean,


we keep coming back to the to the assimilation of the different groups,

you know,

Wabash uh has almost 7000 employees,



and I’m actually part of what’s called the Culture Council at Wabash.

Uh And we’re just constantly working out,

how do we make it a better place for our employees?

Um And you need that um I guess that spread out force um throughout the company at that size to be effective.

And that’s a,

do I see it again without not calling it the culture console?

Um I see that with,



with Gay Josh and B and the group that we work with the OC I think they just do it naturally.

We do a purpose driven because we have to just to touch that many people.

And that’s why we saw it all on our website.

But again,

they’re definitely in the simulation and,

and I think that’s why it’s so fun to work together for sure.


couple of companies with phenomenal culture here and,

and I,

I did want to establish that before we got on to talking about the nuts and bolts because I feel like it’s such an important part of uh both of the companies now.

After listening uh Adam to you and Jordan both talk about it.

Uh But I am always excited to hear about new technologies,

you know,

uh breaking boundaries uh inventing new things that move the trucking industry forward.

And I know that over at Wabash,

you guys are always kind of trying to innovate and,


uh bring new technology into the marketplace.



I kinda wanna open it up to both of you guys.



we can start with you,

but can you give us a little peek behind the curtain of some things that are maybe around the corner or some things you guys are working on to,

to advance the industry?



You know,

so I think one of the,

one of the primary things we’re working on right now,

Marcus is,

is Telematics,

you know,

it’s a big buzzword in our industry,


And uh basically what,

what telematic is is we want to be able to increase the information that our customers can receive from their tanks.

Um And you know,

that information comes from,

you know,

in the form of electronics on the trailer,

transmitting data back to,

you know,

headquarters to who,


you know,

to whoever may want to see it or dispatch.

Um And that,

that data could be the the current temperature of the product in the trailer.

Um It could be the,

the exact location and coordinates of the trailer throughout throughout the US.

And so those are just a couple of examples of,

of what that Telematics um can do.

You know,

and we’ve been working,

our product engineering team has been working with our customers to kinda determine and establish what our customers need.

You know,

we just don’t want to go into a project with,

um we,

we want to go into a project with our customers needs in mind and we want to meet our customer’s needs.

So we’ve been talking to our customers to determine what would benefit them.

And so that’s kind of the,

the phase we’re in right now.

And the next phase is to determine what actually we bring to the table um in terms of uh the Telematics.



I have to go to you here when you hear Telematics and you hear about these kind of new innovations and ideas coming out of Wabash,

what’s going through your mind?

How do you know like the,



Telematics are huge having the data um in front of us so we can make the right right decisions going forward,

you know,

right now we do PM is on a,

on a time basis on a day.


you know,

so maybe that trailer is,

maybe that trailer is sitting out here,

you know,

maybe as it ran for 15 days.


you know,

it probably we should probably be doing those off the distance,

how much the trailer has driven,

but there’s no real good way to do that.

Um Right now without some sort of telematics and,

and having that stuff put on at the factory would,

would make it a lot easier on everybody for sure.


uh Adam uh over to you here,

another just short excerpt from the website.


it says here with a full line of stainless steel and aluminum tank trailers,

we serve a wide range of industries.

Our tank trailers feature the longest asset life and highest residual values in the industry.

Can you talk a little bit about that?


longest asset life,

highest residual values in the industry?

Those are really big deals for people running giant trucking companies.

They want their trailers to last and then they want to be able to get something out of them once they’re ready to upgrade.

Um How does Wabash kind of take that all into consideration and provide great asset life and high residual values?



It’s all it all comes down to the design.

So we have a uh established design that’s been proven over the last 30 years.

Uh The things that I’m gonna note here are,

are truly things that only Wabash does.

So we have our,

our upper framing.

Uh We weld directly to the barrel on the trailers.

The barrel is your structure.

So if you can connect to that barrel with your framing,

uh it promotes a stronger point to the ground.

So your head don’t have as much flexing and,

and pulling on the bar,

the framing itself because it’s pulling on that barrel that promotes a longer life for the trailer.

We’re the only one to do it in an industry.

We also,

we have an integral sump for unloading that pulls the sump as far back as you can physically pull it on a tank trailer.

What does that do?

That reduces the heel left over in the tank trailer so that there’s lots of opportunity for contamination or corrosion.

It allows you to fully unload that tank trailer.

It takes extra time through our shop.

Both of these items do but they do promote that longevity and the,

the resale ability at with the trailer.

Uh The final thing we do is,

and this is a recent change in the last few years is we use uh 22 05 heat panels,

which is a high corrosion resistance,

high pencil strength.

Uh What we’ve seen recently is that uh chlorides that are used to clean boilers to uh push steam into the heat panels.

Uh We’re actually causing corrosion from the inside out.

So we switch from lower grade stainless,

which is the industry standard 222 and five.

It’s not going to be impervious,

but it gives you a lot better opportunity.

So those are three very high,

high level items that we’ve changed or that we have in our design.

Excuse me,

that really set us apart for longevity and for resell.

And I guess so.

And it makes sense as to why so many trailers that I see out there on the road have your logo on them because they last longer because they’re built better.

I mean,

it’s uh it’s all pretty simple when you break it down like that.


and I also do love,

I left out a little bit of the,

the excerpt there but,



it says that uh our tankers are designed to safeguard communities,

the environment and the health of consumers.

Uh You can tell that that’s a very important part of,



of what you guys are doing over there at Wabash as well.

And I just have to ask you a little bit off the topic.

Uh Jordan,

I’ll go to you first and then Adam,

I’ll ask you,

do you,

do you die a little bit inside if you’re watching a video online and you see one of your beautiful trailers that somebody forgot to vent and it just crunches like a pop can.


I’m mesmerized by these videos and I’ve talked to enough uh liquid drivers now to know that,

you know,

they’re Johnny on the spot with this stuff,

but it happens out there sometimes.

What does it do to you when you see it,




it’s very cool to see.

Um you know,

first and foremost,

it is very cool to see.

Um But uh you know,

I do,

you know,

I it part of part of me goes to that,

you know,

even as,


as creative,

a catastrophe that is um we can repair it,

you know,


we have service centers throughout the country um that you can take AAA major catastrophe like that,

an implosion.

So to speak,


is that we can repair that,

you can actually resection those barrels.


and you can repurpose those barrels and,

and using them again.



first priority is hopefully everyone’s ok.




there’s no major accidents on the highway.

Everyone’s ok.



second thing is,


how do I get my customer to bring that tank back on the road?

And how do we get it fixed to,


to be able to haul product again?

For him?

I would have never guessed that you guys could,

could salvage that.

And so it’s the,

I feel like the answer I just got here is you don’t see a tragedy as much as you see an opportunity.

Let’s get that thing repaired.

Let’s get it back out there on the road.

I love that.

And first and foremost,

everyone is safe and sound.

That’s true.

Always our first concern,



Uh Adam,

how about for you,


you see an opportunity there too.

Uh Are you when you see something like that happen?


we were concerned about the safety.

Sometimes we have to feel like it might be operator error or something like that,

but just knowing that you guys built such a beautiful product and,

and something like that happened to it.

Does it get under your skin at all or are you like Jordan?

And you’re like,


if everyone’s safe,

let’s get it back out there on the road.





safety is number one.

You know,

that’s the first thing that goes to mind anytime,

not just a,

a in or implosion.


is anytime you see an accident,


you know,

drivers really,

really run this country and you really worry about their,

you worry about everybody safe but,

you know,

you want to make sure they’re,

they’re safe out there but then why,

you know,

why does it happen?

You know,

can we take a deeper conversation to,

to better support this going forward?

Is there a specific product specific temperature?

So not only fixing the immediate issue in the abilities we have in our service centers but taking a deeper look at root cause and understanding what can we do in this specific instance to maybe prevent it going forward.

And so that’s where my head goes.

That’s great guys.

Thank you.


I appreciate that.

I know,

you know,

that was probably a little bit of an uncomfortable question,

but I,

I had to squeak it in there cause researching the tankers uh as much as I’ve done over the past uh you know,

few months here working with liquid,

those are just videos that you can’t avoid from time to time.

And I’ve always been kind of fascinated by that.

So I,

I appreciate it,


I wanna go to you here because I’ve,

I’ve uh you,

you’ve been characterized to me before as uh a guy that’s really good with with tinkering with things.


you like to take things apart,

put them back together.

Can you talk to me a little bit about that aspect of a Wabash trailer?

I it’s,

it’s obviously a well built product.

Have you gotten in there with your hands and really,

you know,

taken some things apart,

put them back together and,

and found real reasons as to why there’s such a better trailer than other options that you might have out there.



I don’t really get in and put my hands on them much myself anymore when I was younger I did.


but not so much anymore.


I just listened to our texts and what they have to say about the problems they’re facing and then I try to help them solve the problems I’ll get with Jordan.


you know,

if we have an issue and then we’ll try to resolve it together.




that’s kind of how we handle it now.

Um Yeah,

I might go look at the problem after they have it apart,

you know,

and then,

you know,

get bow,

let bow,

talk to Jordan and the guys at Wabash or Adam directly or if I have to get involved,

I will.


but I like to still be involved in the specking and trying to make things safer and more efficient.

So that’s,

that’s kind of where,

where I come in,

it’s just making changes,

the spec itself to you know,

to make the trailer safer.




I don’t know,

I guess I’m at a loss there so you can cut that last part out.


it’s no problem because I think it might have brought us to another question that I can ask that might be a little bit better to set you up for it.


what kinds of,

of specking options have you been kind of looking into?

Is there anything that you’re looking to uh,

see advance with the trailers,

maybe something that you can talk to,

to Jordan and Adam here about uh that you’d like to see in the future or,

or a change that they may have made in the past that really advanced things for liquid trucking,

anything like that.


there’s multiple things that we’ve worked on recently and further back most recently,

we had some customers complaining that uh the fall protection on our trailers,

we’re getting in the way of their load racks and they did not,

they were gonna start rejecting any trailers with the fall protection on them.

So we simplified that on the spec and,

and made it a little less invasive,

although we didn’t really want to,

we kind of had to,


just to,

to support one of our biggest customers.

We’ve made some changes to our acid specs,

our acid trailers,

you know,

those are highly corrosive materials and they thin the trailers out.


you know,

we’ve recently we’ve moved to,

you know,

thicker gauge shell and thicker gauge piping just to kind of promote the longevity of those tanks.

I don’t know,


about 67 years ago we decided to change everything,

change our brakes.

So we run,

respecting everything with 100% disc breaks.


for safety,

as we’ve gotten into the food grade side of things,

you know,

over the years we decided to get rid of the,

the clean out ports on top of the tanks because that’s just the place for contaminants to hide.

We’ve just worked on a lot of different little things over the years.

Um Another thing that,

that they’ve been good with is like the up fitting of the pumps.

They built us a trailer,

we outfitted the pumps here,

kind of kind of came up with a baseline,

they came,

took pictures of everything and so now we just ship the pumps to Wabash,

they have all their notes and they up ft everything.

So when we get our trailer here,

it’s ready to go and ready to ready to hit the road and go to work.

That’s so cool.

I love that there’s that kind of customer service there.

I mean,

you guys are,

are literally working together to make sure that the trailers work for everybody out there uh with liquid printed on the side them.

So uh I,

I just,

I think this is such a cool peek behind the curtain of how the two companies work together,

you know,

a lot of times from,

from an outside perspective,

you might think that every one of these trailers that you see driving down the road is the same because it’s got the same logo on it.

But really,

uh Wabash has worked,

uh uh put in a lot of time and figured out exactly what liquid needs so that they can make those,

you know,

minor changes to,

to fit liquid’s business and,

and I think that’s really cool.



we are kind of running out of time here,

so I wanna make sure and give everybody a chance to say anything else that we haven’t gotten to.

Uh we still do have some time left,

so don’t worry about keeping it short.


I’ll start with you uh as director of specialty sales for Wabash.

Uh Again,

thank you so much for being here today.

Is there anything else that we didn’t get to that you wanna mention or a message that you want to send to anybody that might be listening?

If so the floor is yours?


I’ll just,

I’ll just echo what I’ve said so far today.

I mean,

for those listening out there,

I think I want to uh Liquid Trucking is a,

it’s a great company to,

to work with and,

and uh from our experience work for and,

and it’s been a pleasure again watching it girl and,

and I really appreciate you all bringing us on today and giving us this opportunity to express that.

So thank you again,

our pleasure.

We love having you,

Jordan on to you same thing.

Any uh any final thoughts before we let you go?


You know,

as Adam said,

I think uh you know,

this is an awesome industry that we work in.

Um I never would envision myself in this industry.

Um but there is a lot to learn.

Um there’s something new and exciting every single day.

So for anyone out there that is looking for work um and needs a job,

you know,

do not hesitate to reach out to,

to liquid trucking or,

or Wabash.

It is a very fun industry to be in and,

and we tell you,


you’re always learning,

you’re always growing.

And so,

uh you know,

don’t be,

don’t be afraid to make the jump.

I love it and uh I didn’t mention this earlier,

but I should have one wabash.com is where you can find information on this.

You guys have a phenomenal website.

If you want to learn anything about the company,

that’s where I’ll direct you because there is more resources there than I even had time to consume uh in preparation for this interview.


uh Gabe real quick before we let you go,

anything uh that you want to add to this?

Um not really Marcus other than,

you know,

Wabash um and bulk has been a great partner for us and,

you know,


we couldn’t be happier with our relationship with them and,


they support our business so I wouldn’t be afraid to,


give them a call for your tanking needs.


there you have it.


Adam Quinn Jordan K,

Stein Gabe Schmidt.

You guys are awesome.

Really appreciate the time today.

Head on over to one wabash.com if you want to check out some of the offerings or,


maybe even get yourself a gig.

And of course,

just for plug’s sake,

Liquid trucking.com is where you can find out everything you need to know about Liquid.


we’ll get you back on the podcast in the future.


this went really well.

Thank you.

Thanks Marcus.

Thanks for having us.

Thank you.

Next up here on the Liquid Trucking Podcast.

Got one of my good friends and Liquid Driver,

Tony Brown back on the show.

Haven’t caught up with you in a while.


How’s it going out there?


it’s going pretty good.


just basic stuff out here.

Marcus idiot drivers.

I hear you.

Where are you at?

Where are you headed today?


I’m actually back in Nebraska right now.

I’m headed back to the yard.

Um I just left Salt Lake City yesterday morning and uh headed back to the yard with a load of magnesium chloride that the customer doesn’t want until Friday.

So headed back to the yard with it.


Just gonna sit there for a few days or it’s gonna sit there for a few days before you take it back there.

I assume they’ll,


they’ll probably have one of the other drivers take it and they’ll send me out on something else.

That’s not usually the way it works that way they keep us running and we’re not just sitting.



I get it.




are you starting to see,


the signs of summer out there?


I’m noticing it was like somebody flipped a switch in the Pacific Northwest.

Last weekend we’d been nothing but like mid forties and fifties and rainy and all of a sudden starting on Friday last week it was 84 degrees here and that was a,

a drastic change.

Uh Are you seeing that travels is,

it’s starting to look a lot more like summer than it is winter out there right now.

It is.

It is,

except for Thursday,

going across Wyoming and it was,

you know,

here it is,

you know,

the 1st 3rd of May and it was snowing across Wyoming and part of Utah.



And I’m sure,

uh I’m sure Idaho got some of it.

I know up in the northeast corner of Oregon where my family’s from,


they got snow like a week ago or so,

but they also had 80 degree weather today.

So it’s,

the mountains are trying to break out of it,

but they’re gonna have a little bit tougher time than the rest of us in the lowlands,

I think.


I know.

My wife’s already,

you know,

bearing it to me that she’s like,


it’s just,

it’s already getting down in the eighties.



she said there was one day and her,

her opinion was it was in the nineties.

But of course,

you know,

the weather man and they’re like,


it’s not that hot,

but for her it was,

it was hot because she finally got after 2.5,

almost three weeks,

so much rain we’ve been getting down in uh in our park.

So she finally got to go out and mow the jungle,

which was normally our yard.


I had to do that over the weekend too,

Tony and if I’d have let it go one more day,

I’d had to bail it.


my wife was talking about uh was joking and saying something about calling our neighbor to come uh bell our yard like he does our pasture,


It was,

it was wild out there.

I mean,


the rain will do that once the weather warms up a little tiny bit and then you get like three street uh weeks of rain.

It’s like walking out into a rain forest and it’s,

I mean,

I hate it.

I can’t tell you how much I dislike yard work and,

and I’ve always been like that and I think,

you know,

my full time job as a kid was helping my dad do all the honey do list stuff that was around the house.

So I got my fill of it before I ever bought my own house.



that sucks,


I hate it.

I don’t feel,

people always tell me,

don’t you feel good when you get done and you come in and it looks so nice.

Absolutely not.

It feel worse when I walked out there.

Look at me,

see the thing for me is II I love working outdoors.

My wife,

you know,

a couple of years ago we bought her a brand new lawn mower.

Uh zero turn uh John Deere zero turn mower.

She always gets the most expensive gifts on my birthday and they’re supposed to meet for her.

But I’m the one that uses it but everything the majority of the time.

So I like to get out there and do the yard work,

you know,

40 acres.

So I’ve,

I’ve taken care of a lot more than just a little bit of front yard.

I’ve got shops and barns to mow and weed eat around.

I got a fence line to clear.

So yeah,

I have a lot to do.


I’m at the point,

I’m about to hire some local high school kid,


while I’m out on the road to come out and just keep,


my fence line maintained.




that’s a lot of work,


40 acres is a big plot.

Do you?

Are you guys growing anything out there.

Are you raising any livestock or anything like that,

or you just kind of leave it natural and enjoy the beauty.



what do the 40 acres serve you for?


right now it’s,

it’s mostly just en,

just enjoying nature.



like I said,

I do have my neighbor,


we do a 5050 split because it,

you know,

I have the land,

he’s got the equipment,

he come and he’ll come and cut it,


and bale it and then he sells it and I get 50% of it.



That’s a hell of a deal.

And I don’t have to do nothing other than try not to drive across it and go play in the mud too much.


I don’t,

I don’t tear it up,

which I know that’s hard for you with all the project cars you’re working on.




it gets,

it gets pretty wild.

But now we used,


when I was younger we used to run livestock out there.

We used to have an ostrich farm,


when I was growing up.


we used to raise and breed ostriches.

I heard those things are kind of mean.

You heard correctly.


you are correctly.


they can be downright mean.


my grandfather had a,

a female,

a hen that named her Pincher because he wasn’t paying attention and she got a hold of his ear and almost ripped his ear off.

Oh my God.

My skin is crawling right now.


because they’re so much more powerful than what they look like.

First of all,

their legs are,

are wicked strong and there’s a,

there’s a place here in Oregon you might have driven by some billboards before up and down I five.

But it’s called,


Wildlife Safari.

It’s actually out on,

on closer to the 101.

the Pacific Coast Highway,

but they have all sorts of different,

you know,


like jungle animals.

They have ostriches and zebras and the lions are clearly tranquilized.

But they’re,

it’s a,

it’s a zoo that you drive through.


You’re in your car the whole time and you’re kind of driving through the habitat.

We’ve got,

we’ve got,


we’ve got a couple of those in Oklahoma.



So you’re familiar and they give you like a,

like a soda cup,

like a fountain cup full of like dog food or cat food or something and you can hold it and the damn ostriches will get,

will stick their head in your car and eat out of the cup.

And I remember those things like my dad,


he smoked at the time and we’d rolled the windows up because those kids were terrified and the ostriches saw his cigarettes sitting underneath the,

or up on the dash under the windshield and started pecking at the windshield trying to get through it.

These crazy dinosaur birds man,


I don’t know how you,

you lived with them for how many years it was,

it was several years until they,

uh they,


they wound up reaching the slaughter market and whenever they reached the slaughter market,


the bottom of that market just completely dropped out.

It cost more to keep them alive than they were worth at that point.


so the,


the ostrich boom just completely tanked.



it was a really good thing.

My grand,

my grandparents made a lot of money in the ostrich industry,

along with one of my grandfather’s brothers,

they made a lot of money in that industry.

And then once it hit the market,

just everything,

it just collapsed.

There was,

there was,

there was nothing left of it.

So the all these big ostrich farms that used to be around the midwest are all gone.



there’s still a few people that have some but they don’t have.

We used to,

you know,

I wouldn’t say random like cattle because they had to be a little bit more confined.

Um They weren’t real free range.

Um They were pinned but they still had a lot of room to move.

Everything was,

was set up for,

for that situation uh for those confinements.

But the ostriches so everything now gets just you can’t run them like you used to run cattle or you have multiple heads of them.

It’s just not cost efficient anymore.


people that have,

you know,

five or six,

you know,

10 of them on a petting zoo farm.


that’s a little different.

But when you’re trying to make an actual business out of them or it’s just those,

you just can’t do it anymore.

Were they raised for,

for meat and for their eggs is that kind of how they were profiting off of them,


when your grandparents were doing it?



ostrich meat is probably one of the leanest meats that you can get a hold of.

And even though they’re a bird by species,


they are not a white meat,

they’re actually a red meat.


Maybe that’s what makes them so damn mean.


And they’re,

they’re extremely lean meat if you don’t like your burgers,

you know,


you don’t want ostrich because if you try to cook them all the way through,

you will burn you.

You’ve got a charcoal bread hockey puck.


So we would have to actually add a little bit of beef to it just to keep from just completely burning them to nothing.



that helps,


Like I will,


you know,

I’m an Elk hunter and so many times there will be Elk meat in the fridge and we kind of,

my wife and I will eat that as a beef substitute,

you know,

pretty frequently.

And it’s very much the same way,

20 g of protein to every 1 g of fat.

So you gotta be real careful with it.

It doesn’t really sear that well,

because there’s no fat in it.

And so a lot of times what I’ll do,

if I’m gonna do an Elk steak,

like in the frying pan or something,

I’ll rub it down with,


with buffalo tallow or beef tallow and get a nice layer of fat on the outside of it.

So it has something to kind of stand between that and that charring that you’re talking about.


it’s tough to cook lean meat.


but I think once you play around with it a lot,

kind of like it sounds like.



I know you have,


you kinda,

you kinda figure out some tips and tricks for sure.


Just like,

like whenever I,

I’m an avid deer hunter,

so whenever I process my white tail deer,

I actually have,





a little bit of,


pork fat at it.

That’s smart.

And when it,

when it,

when I’m grinding it up,

when it’s being ground and mixed in that way,


you can cook it without it just completely burning to a hockey puck.

I know in the past we’ve had the butcher mix some beef suet in with our,

with our ground elk meat,



when they’re grinding it for us because it kind of turns it into,

I mean,

it doesn’t turn it into an 8020 or anything like that.

Like it might be 10% fat.

So it’s still really lean,

really good for you,

but it helps,

it helps the cooking process a lot and it helps the flavor as well.



you know,

on that note,

Tony and miraculously,

we magically just kind of walked into talking about recipes.


you know,

you knew we were gonna get to that sooner or later.

You and I,


the way we are when we get together,



you’ve been,

you send me lots of pictures for meals that you cook in the truck.

I know you enjoy your time in the kitchen.



I think you’ve brought us a couple of things today to,


to kinda share with the other drivers.



I did.


I shared a couple of them on our,



Liquid Trucking Drivers Lounge,

Facebook page.

But I’ll go into a little bit more detail on one or two of those in particular.

I’ll start out with my,

my stuffed burgers.


So I will start out with and if you want to write this down,

you can,

a lot of,

a lot of my recipes are,

I wouldn’t say trial and error,

but they’re gonna be to taste.

So if you don’t like what I’m using in it,

you can substitute,

you’re not gonna hurt my feelings.


just don’t tell me about it.

You know,


I don’t know,

I don’t know.



and you don’t want to have to tell somebody that changed your recipe that they ruined it.

So let’s just,

just keep that to yourself,

make the changes you need to.


and so some of these,

you know,

the measurements I don’t carry measuring spoons with me.

I’ve got a,

I use the palm of my hand and I know from experience by using measuring devices and pouring it into my hand approximately how much I’m putting into what I cook.

So it just,

it’s one less thing.

I don’t have to carry in my truck and it’s always attached to me.

Hopefully everyone lose a hand.

You got bigger problems.

I don’t know that you’ll be making a stuffed burger if you’ve uh gone,

gone missing a ham that day.

So let’s,

you know,

so I’m gonna,

I’m gonna break this down into a two person portion size.



but me at the same time,

I like larger portions for myself.

So 1 to 2,

a two person portion is one for me.


Got you.

So I’m gonna go with most people do quarter pound hamburgers.

I prefer a half pound.


So take £1 of ground beef.


your choice,

preferably the leaner the better because you’re going to have a little bit of oil added to it.

So you want to keep it pretty lean.


You want a quarter of a cup of diced bell pepper,

about a quarter to a third of a cup of diced shrimp.





you’ve got my attention so you can get some cocktail shrimp precooked.

But you wanna take it and you wanna,

and you can even,

I don’t like using the little,

little bitty,

tiny baby shrimp a lot of times when you go to saute them,

they just get soft and rubbery.


Bay shrimp are better raw,

that’s for sure.



and you can do raw shrimp as well because it’s,

it’s all gonna cook.

So you can do raw shrimp.

But you want to start out and,

but you want to dice them into,

into small pieces really small.

If you’re taking your average size shrimp,

you’re gonna break it down into about feet.


eight pieces.


You want a little finer,

do it.

We want it a little heavier,

you know,

to your liking how you,

how you want it.

You’re gonna take your bell pepper,

you’re gonna take your shrimp,

take some mushroom and chop up some mushroom.

You’re also gonna wanna,

so that’s also gonna be a quarter of a cup of mushroom.

Throw it,

throw it in a saucepan with a little bit of extra virgin olive oil and just,

just enough to coat.

You’re not gonna,


you’re not frying,

you’re not deep frying it.

So you want just enough to coat the bottom of the pan.

Keep things really sticky.

Stir your,


your mixture up inside there,

which is your bell peppers,

your shrimp and your mushroom.

And if you want to add other veggies you can.

But then I had a,

I used one teaspoon of onion powder,

half a teaspoon of garlic powder,

salt and pepper to taste.

Um I like and then you’re gonna,

you’re just gonna saute that.

Get it,

get everything softened up,

strain it over a paper towel,


dab it dry after you’ve done sauteing it.

Now you take your hamburger,

take your hamburger and take all of that.

Dump it in up,

put it all in a mixing bowl.


about half a cup of shredded cheese of your choosing.

Throw it in there.

You’re gonna add a little bit another pinch of salt.

Uh And I,

I like to use uh a Creole seasoning because I did add,

I use because I had shrimp in there.

I like to use Creole seasoning a lot of times I’ll add the Creole seasoning when I’m sauteing and then I’ll add a little bit more whenever I’m mixing,

putting this mixture together,

get it all padded together.

So you’re just gonna sit there and knead all this,

this meat in your sauteed mixture and your cheese,

mixing it all together,

then make your two separate patties unless you want to do four patties.

However you want to do it.

Just take those,

make form out your patties,

throw them on the grill,

cook them to your liking.

You know,

you’ve already sauteed the shrimp.

So the shrimp’s already cooked,

cook them to your liking.

And then I like to have a,

like a,

a Chipotle or a Cajun aioli.

Hell yeah.

And kind of drizzle a little bit of that on there.

And sometimes I’ll throw that on a bed of rice or like the photo I sent you.

I will use uh egg noodles and just a little bit of,

and it’s weird if I don’t use the uh an aioli,

I’ll just use brown gravy.



my God.

That sounds so good.


and it’s ready to go.

I mean,

it’s pretty simple.

I mean,

it kind of stretched it out there,

make it seem a little more difficult than it is.

But it,

it’s super simple.


if you don’t like shrimp,


I did recently I didn’t take any photos of it because I was,

I wasn’t sure how it was gonna turn out.

I’m kind of regretting that.

I didn’t,

I used some imitation crap.



Got you.


See that in there.

I would have to stay away from both of them because either one of those things would kill my wife dead because she’s allergic to it.

But I,

I’ll tell you what I was thinking as a substitute with some bacon.



I have done the bacon.

It’s b,

I love bacon.

Don’t get me wrong.

I love bacon but everybody uses bacon.




it’s easy.


go get,


And this is one I sent you substitute the shrimp for an,

a nice mildly spiced.

You don’t e,

and they don’t even have to be spicy at all.

Find you a nice,




It just Andouille sausage.







I bet that would be great.

Dice it up real finely and do this.

And so instead of doing the seafood,

use the Andouille sausage.

I love it,


I love it.

And I even use the Creole seasoning with it.




And that’s kind of,

that gets a little closer to like the jambalaya,


That they serve down there.

That’s all Andouille sausage and it’s phenomenal uh with that Creole seasoning on it.

And dude,

I’ll tell you when people stuff cheese inside of a burger,

like there’s the people that’ll put a huge amount of cheese in.

So it like go out when you cut it.

I’m not talking about that.

I’m talking about like what you’re talking about shredded cheese mixed into a burger.

There’s almost nothing better,


I mean,


I like,

I prefer it over having a slice of cheese on top of my cheeseburger.

If I’m the one making it.

And I have the time to do that.

I would much rather have that than a burger with just a slab of cheese on it.

So when I did the Andouille sausage burger,

I actually because I didn’t have the stuff in the truck with me.

I went into Arby’s at the truck stop,

ordered a sesame seed bun with lettuce and tomato.


And then you just got a burger order that they charged me like six bucks for lettuce tomato and a bun.

Of course,

I made me and then I had some monster cheese.


I’m a cheese connoisseur.

There’s no such thing as too much cheese.

The biggest,

the biggest fight me and my wife or biggest argument we’ll ever have is who let us run out of cheese because you could be making something that in the recipe already calls for cheese.

I will double that.



I’m such a sucker for cheese,


I love it.

I knew you and I were,

were kindred spirits long ago,

but it’s,

I seem,

we seem to keep finding out more uh that we have in common with one another,

you know.

So uh another.

So I do if you like.

Do you like cornbread?



Who doesn’t?


Take some pickled jalapenos.


Do you see them,

run them through?

Almost make like a relish?


Because you know,

just run them through your chopper and make a relish out of it.

Make your cornbread seasoning or your cornbread mixture.

Add that jalapeno to it.

That sounds good.

Add in,

add in some onion powder.


And instead of making a large uh,


usually get a muffin tin.

Oh yeah,

a little.


I’ve seen that before.

Little cornbread muffins,



Fill your uh cornbread muffins up in,

in that pan and then give you and cube up some pepper jack cheese,

get some small cubes.


And then you stuff one right in the middle of it and then throw that bad boy in the oven,



cheesy corn bread.

Like you’re speaking my language right now,


And I,

because you have your chili recipe,

I’m not gonna tell you,

you’re wrong about your chili recipe because I’ve heard about it.

I have a chili recipe as well and I’ll throw it out at you here in just a moment.

But I tell you what,

you throw you b you tossed in that cornbread recipe of mine with your uh chili and you,

your mind just went to a ho you didn’t just go into outer space.

You went beyond.

I left the galaxy.


I love it,



you bet.


you know what we got football season around the corner.

That’s the only thing I start thinking about early in the summer is that it’s almost fall.

And uh this is already on the tailgate recipe list.

You just,

that’s all the convincing I’ll take OK,

I’m doing it for sure.


And it’s mind blowing.


but another,

another quick barbecue,

you know,

uh family favorite,

I’ve been requested to make this quite often and it’s real simple.


this is,

you know,

some people say there’s a grilling season for me.

There’s no such thing as a grilling season.

If I can,

if I can fire up my grill,

it’s grilling,

it’s grilling season.


Whether I’m doing it indoors or outdoors,

I’ve got a big enough barn that I can fire up my grill down in the shop and I ain’t worried about burning nothing down.

I mean,

I’ve got a,

I’ve got a wood burning stove in there anyway.


I mean,

how much,

how much worse could it be?


take you an ear of corn.


and you’re,

you’re gonna soften some stick butter.

You want to soften,

throw in some onion powder and here,

here we go again.

You can’t go wrong with onion powder.

A little garlic powder,

some red cayenne pepper.


And mix that in with your softened butter,

then you’re gonna slather,

just use your hand and you’re gonna slather down those corn cobs.

Take your favorite bacon and wrap that bad boy in bacon,

that corn cob and bacon.

Then wrap it in foil and throw it on the grill for about 1520 minutes on the grill.

About halfway through.

Kind of about every five minutes.

Give them a quarter,


pull them off the grill,

let them cool off just a little bit.

Your bacon is gonna,

a lot of people don’t like the bacon because it doesn’t necessarily crisp up because of it being locked in that foil.

But with that butter and that bacon soaks down into that in between the kernels of that corn and you’re on a whole another level.

So the bacon’s almost there just to flavor the corn a little bit and get that fat rendered down into it.

It’s like,


you can eat the chewy bacon.

That’s a little bit of a bonus.

But really we’re,

we’re all about flavoring the corn here.


my God.

That sounds amazing and easy.

I mean,


you know,

it’s super easy,

super easy.


grill and corn and foil.


I mean,

you gotta be not paying attention to mess that up.

So that’s a,

that’s an easy one.

I love it,


Do you carry a grill with you on your truck?

I carry my little George Foreman grill.

I have the little,

the mini grill that I keep in the truck with me.


then I,

and then I have my little electric skillet.


I have a three in one.

it’s a,

it’s a toaster oven.

It looks like a traditional toaster oven,

but it’s a three in one because it has an addition,

it’s added in a,

an air fryer.

And unfortunately I can’t use it in or even out of the truck because I wasn’t paying attention and it just a little pulled a little too much from the inverter and it does,

it doesn’t like it.

So I have a minute,

I’ve got to use it once for about a couple of minutes and realize,


this ain’t gonna work.

I had to do something else.

So now I’m so next time I go home I got my wife’s like,

just leave it with me.

She goes,

I’ll use it.




It’s funny you gotta learn the hard way about some of that stuff we have for our,

for our tailgate.

We have a deep cycle marine battery that we use to run.

You know,

we have a TV out there and we’ll run various cookware off of it.



one day we wanted to do,



waffles out there because it was a breakfast game.

It was a morning game and we brought the waffle maker out and the deep cycle marine battery wouldn’t run it.

And I have an AC in,


input in my truck,

but it’s for like charging your phone or charging your laptop,

you know,


and my wife just kind of,


instinctively went and threw the keys on in the truck and plugged the waffle maker in and kicked out all my fuses that run that particular part of the,


the operation.


you know,

I’ve learned a hard.


it happened.






this has been great,


I really appreciate you coming on and sharing your recipes,


because I know that the other drivers out there are listening and are writing this shit down.



if you’re,

if you’re listening to this right now and you make one of Tony’s recipes,

be sure to send him a picture.

And if you’ve got my digit,

send me a picture as well or email it over to podcast at Liquid trucking.com.


because I’d love to see what you guys come up with out there and keep the pictures coming Tony because,


you know,


it just makes my day and I always find that on a day that you’ve sent me a picture of something that you’ve made in the truck.

I try harder in the kitchen because it makes me hungry and I just want to do better.

It gives you that challenge.





before I leave.



go ahead.

I was just gonna say next time around as much as I don’t like sharing my chili recipe.

I will share my chili recipe.




I appreciate it.

We’ll save that one for next time because we are kind of running out of time here.

But uh you know,

if you want to just send it to me personally,

I can keep state secrets,


I won’t give it to anybody else.


unless you want me to.


uh Tony,

before I let you go,

uh anything else that you want to say anything you’d like to say to the drivers,

liquid staff,

maybe any family or friends listening,

anything like that.

The floor is yours.


Um all the drivers out there just remember weather it’s warming up,

cyclists are coming out more and more both motorized and pedal powered.

So keep an eye out for those guys and to,

to everyone else out there to the company itself.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

This company 2.5 years and I still,

to this day,

I still couldn’t imagine going anywhere else.

I absolutely love liquid and granted,

you know,

we have our bad days,

you know,

and we can’t control the loads necessarily the product in the load.

So sometimes that makes you want to choke a smurf to see what color it turns.

But that’s,

that’s not the company’s fault.

That’s not the company’s issue.

You know,


that’s nothing against the company.

That’s just the product in itself.

That’s the nature of the game,

the nature of the beast like this stuff I’m hauling right now,

almost £11 per gallon.

And it has tried to kill me the entire route,

but that there’s,

there’s nothing we can do about that.

That’s just how it is.

That’s the name of the game.

But as far as company wide and the way they,

the way they do us,


I couldn’t,

I couldn’t be any happier.


I’ve talked to other drivers.

I’ve got another one,

I’m fixing to call the company because he wants to,


he actually wants to get out of owner op and go company.





that doesn’t surprise me at all with the,


with the environment out there in the market right now.

And also we’ve got these,

uh these,

these possible new regulations that are being tabled right now that could really change things up for owner operators uh in the future might be better to be driving for a company,

especially being a company driver for a company like Liquid.

Like that’s,

you know,

that’s no slouch of a gig.



it’s all well said,


Uh I appreciate that and of course,

here at Liquid,

I’m sure they’re appreciating you going out and finding them good experienced drivers,


I I try very cool man.



be safe out there,

please and uh can’t wait to get you back on here again.

Uh We really appreciate the time and uh yeah,

we’ll talk to you soon,

my friend.


It was,

it was a pleasure,


Thanks for having me.

That’s gonna wrap up episode 27 of the Liquid Trucking Podcast.

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They’re some of the most cutting edge technology in the industry,

some things that only they are doing and uh they provide safety and reliability for us here at Liquid Trucking.

So we can’t thank those guys enough for coming on and sharing some time with us.

And of course,

Liquid Driver,

our old friend Tony Brown,

uh hooking up some recipes and uh talking a little bit about trailers,

but really with Tony because of the pictures that he sends me from the road,


we’re talking about food.


it doesn’t matter.

I’ve got to talk to that guy about food and uh today’s episode will show you a little bit why he joined me on a last minute notice.

So a huge tip of the cap to tell out there for really coming through in the clutch for me this week.

We also appreciate every single one of you that’s out there representing Liquid Trucking listening to this podcast.

If you don’t work at Liquid Trucking,

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there’s a place for that.

It’s Liquid trucking.com stop by the website and check it out.

See everything that this phenomenal company has to offer.

You heard the guys from Wabash talk about it.

It’s more than just,


Liquid gets their liquid to the Liquid customers on time,

Wabash is working with Liquid because it’s such a great company.

They’ve got such a great culture and they take care of their employees.

Those types of mindsets go a long way in the trucking industry and we’re here on this podcast every single week to help bring that story to light and show you why Liquid Trucking is at the forefront of the trucking industry when it comes to customer service culture equipment,

all of the things.

All right.

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the podcast team to be a part of Liquid Trucking in this,


So thank you everyone out there from top to bottom at Liquid.

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